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@ash @yehuda meshenichnas calm down on the personal attacks or I'm closing comments

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"This is where the God-of-the-Gaps (GOTG) fallacy becomes evident. Ash is making an argument from ignorance: just because science doesn’t have all the answers (yet), this doesn’t mean we should jump to invoke a god to explain what’s missing. The missing pieces of a puzzle do not automatically validate the existence of an unseen, supernatural explanation. The “god-of-the-gaps” argument is a logical fallacy where gaps in scientific knowledge are filled with supernatural explanations, essentially concluding that "we don't know, therefore, God did it." This reasoning is not valid because lack of knowledge doesn’t imply an answer—it just means we need more investigation."

This is retarded. There has been plenty of time and zero progress.

This is Yehuda Mishenichnas: "We found unicorn hair, unicorn horns, we've had sightings of unicorns in front of hundreds, and people who drink the found unicorn blood stay inches away from death but lead a cursed existence. However, this doesn't mean unicorns exist! It is a "unicorn-of-the-gaps argument". We are essentially concluding we don't know therefore unicorns exist. This reasoning is not valid because lack of knowledge doesn’t imply an answer—it just means we need more investigation."

This illustratea what I call a Type-3 fallacy: Eliminating conclusions before looking at evidence. Yehuda is essentially saying there is nothing that could ever prove to him the existence of the supernatural because he eliminated that possibility a priori. Any evidence - even God himself appearing to Yehuda - can be dismissed as needing more evidence. There is plenty of evidence for something metaphysical. Quantum physics, free will, and consciousness are all good evidence that something exists beyond our physicality. You can a priori dismiss it or say your standard of evidence requires God himself to appear before you - but then again it is dishonest to say there is no evidence.

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