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Yitz's avatar

You give the Orthodox world too much credit by saying that they purposefully obfuscate the conversation, within the Yeshiva world this convo is basically just regarded as a non-starter, it is so far outside of the Overton window that it needs no obfuscation, it just never comes up.

Anyways, this has been a maaajor problem for me in accepting traditional interpretations and has led me to take either a post-modernist stance a la R. Shagar or to create what I call post-orthodoxy, where we can (hopefully) live commited Jewish lives without lying to ourselves about the origins of our religion.

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Happy's avatar

Huh. This one isn’t as interesting as your others. Long on superficial generalities, short on details. The general gist of this article is that you have already declared victory on traditionalism because of the brilliance of the Enlightenment, and are gloating about what the “bruised and battered” religious people will do next. This comes along with a smattering of self-serving historical fiction to boost your esteem, along with dishing out strawmen as if they are cocktails. Needless to say, your victory whoop is quite premature as relates to Judaism. The traditionalists are growing by leaps and bounds, and definitely don’t appear bruised and battered. They don’t even know who you are, your scholars are, or your arguments, those primitive benighted knuckleheads. If the traditionalists are bruised and battered, they’re not showing it. There’s no doubt that they will last a lot longer than whatever culture you identify with.

(After reading this, I realize it sounds like it was written by AI. I promise you it wasn’t! I think I was trying to write like literature critic or something, and ended up sounding like AI. But I’m not going to rewrite it.)

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